In this respect, they are both on fairly equal footing. Because he did feel something for her, despite her repeated betrayal of him, over and over. Louis: you are grieving. Philippe shakes his head: I grieve alone. Louis swallows then says: You will marry again. Philippe interjects: I simply want to live. Louis: It is your duty. Philippe hisses: I have had my fill of duty. It was really interesting reading both of your viewpoints. They walk into a salon, where Montcourt is playing cards, and everyone suddenly stops talking when Marchal meets the mans eye. Louis walks in and replies: because I ask him to do so. Ahhhhh-HA! Apparently de Clermont gave Marchal the names of the conspirators against the king, and all the names of those who shared her allegiance. NOT AT ALL acceptable in the eyes of pretty much everyone. And Louvois being the pompous ass he is, says haughtily: Before you speak to me, I suggest you speak to the king. Marchal: I am his Majestys eyes and ears, Msieur Louvois. No one enters. Her father was King Charles I of England, her mother the youngest daughter of Henry IV of France and Marie de' Medici. Pale and in obvious distress, she was put to bed, but her pains were so severe that she believed she must have been poisoned and asked for an antidote. Then he turns and suddenly a Man In a Mask is standing there. hes a critic, but there is another who has been hidden before us. Thatd do it. Henriette says a glorious death in battle would not displease him. He sees Louis. Copyright 2023 History Today Ltd. Company no. But, this is my interpretation or thoughts based on the real life events. *The only voice, your own. HOW DID THEY DO THAT SO PERFECTLY??? Henriette feels nothing for Philippe, he not having put any more effort into endearing himself to her than she to him and he also complicating things for her where Louis is concerned. Henriette mentions the issues she has with the Chevalier. Louis paranoia about his little brother is completely unfounded. And c) to show the resentment Philippe has for his wife, a woman whom he has to share with his brother, and he cannot do a damn thing about it. Its my weekly sin, I confess, Im too addicted to this period to miss it. At the time of his birth, his parents had been married for 23 years. Guilt often manifests itself in an outward show of rage. NOOOOOOO. b) To show a glimpse of vulnerability for Henriette because for all her power, she is still the property of her husband and can be treated as such. But Sophie declares she has no life: what her mother told her was a lie. Of his power, of his country. Thank you for the recaps, I am with you on all things you write about Monsieur Marchal, he is everything! Well, my thought is Philippe angrily claiming his conjugal rights may well have happened before. Her husband is openly gay and has no problem flaunting it in the public. Claudine confirms poison and Louis huddles with his advisors: he wants to know if any English are at court. Sorry to jar you There are just some things I couldnt overlook, and I admit I was looking at Henriettes character so closely, to see if the screenwriters would sweeten her up from her historical figure. (*cries*), Bontemps goes to see Louis. They are singing. Minor detail maybe, but not sure if that doesnt change the meaning of the next bit somewhat? Her breath falters: Im scared. And the look on Louis and Philippes faces as they both lean in to comfort her *sobs* Philippe says gently: There is nothing to fear. Henriette: How do you know? Philippe: do you remember before you were born? Hi Jules, I must thank you for your detailed writeup of all ten episodes of Versailles. First off let me say that I absolutely love your reviews of Versailles, Ms. Jules. Thanks for the correction I listened to that audio over and over but couldnt quite get the last word! Totally inappropriate time to mention it. for all of these. keep him occupied in body and mind, adds Louis with a brief smile. Merci! Would you villify a slave because he hated his master or ran away simply because slavery was accepted at that time and slaves (much like women, little difference there) were considered nothing more than the property of their masters to do with as they please (again, just as a woman was to her husband)? Henriette fulfills her duties with. Do you honestly think that just because certain abusesatrocities, evenwere acceptable, that those on the receiving end didnt feel anger, pain, violation, etc. After doing an excellent job negotiating an alliance with England against the Dutch (which was then promptly overturned), Henriette returns to Versailles just in time to be poisoned and die in blood-soaked agony. For the record, I dont think Henriette would actually like to see Philippe die, but she would like to be shot of him. I think that if he really loved Henriette that much, he wouldnt have gotten over her so quickly and easily, once they dangled a pretty, young blonde newcomer court lady to distract him. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Enriched my enjoyment of the show, and got a bit more educated on the courts history as well . Henriettes liver and intestines were found to be badly corrupted, while her duodenum, gall bladder and the lower portion of her abdomen were filled with evil-smelling bile. Louis turns in slow-mo, the expression on his face revealing nothing. He is genuinely distraught, going to a collapsed Henriette on the floor while Louis is just standing there, seemingly frozen. When King Charles hears that his beloved sister has been poisoned in France, it is only a matter of hours before a declaration of war. Louvois: a war they cannot afford to win. Colbert now counsels Louis on the shift of power should Henriette die: Henriettes very existence strengthens your position. A fabulous shot of Versailles under construction and we are back inside, in Louis' chambers conducting business. Claudine Masson Fabien Marchal Henriette of England Henriette and Montespan Fabien and Sophie Isabella Braganza Claudine and Fabien Marie-Thrse and Montespan Versailles (series) Sophie de Clermont Philippe of France Henriette and Louis Philippe and Liselotte's Wedding Chevalier and Henriette Categories And Bontemps replies: we are all proud of her, Sire. Louis: And now someone is trying to destroy me, by destroying her. Rohan appears: And they will not succeed I came as soon as I could I wish to offer myself to you as your subject and as your friend. UGGGGGH. Here it is, mes amis! According to the Savoyard ambassador, the king vowed that, if Henriette had indeed been poisoned, those involved would be tortured to death, including the chevalier de Lorraine, Philippes favourite, if he were implicated. They fear she might have been poisoned, so King Louis XIV shuts all access To Versailles. Henriette, however, was never robust and often experienced such terrible pains in her side that she would lie on the floor to find respite. We stake our claim or we are ploughed into the field. It could also be argued that Philippe is relatively powerless, but only where Louis, his older brother and his king, is concerned. Much kudos to Nomie Schmidt for a brilliantly sad scene, aided by the backing music and the strength and emotion of George Blagden and Alex Vlahos. She was merely being used by the man she was in love with. My loyalty still lays with Philippe as her husband, he has a right to lay claim to his wife. PERFECT. Is he for or against le roi? Cultural factors, too, played a part. She actually says I could never love you well which does change the context somewhat. Panoramica: After crushing the Protestants and thwarted Leto, Louis feels invincible. And Louis coming out the good guy. Then Montcourt, the sly little worm, implies that Marchal will cop shit if Henriette dies and no culprit is found, and that Marchals judgement is lacking due to the whole de Clermont thing. They could be far away from the victim at the time of death, so it would be difficult to definitively pin on anyone. Around 5pm on 29th June Henriette drank chicory water, then keeled over saying Ah! First off, let me preface my response with the qualifier that I know very little about the historical figures on which these characters are based. I think he also wants reassurance that Louis cares for him as much as he cares for Louis. King Louis is in a bit of a pickle. Today you get the chance to kill a king! While hes saying this, Marchal behind them is taking out a knife, and suddenly he slides it across the floor, and Louis picks it up, and Montcourt lunges another candlestick is involved.. OMG And then Louis grabs Montcourt from behind and sinks the knife into him! Next morning and Louis opens the shutters on a sleeping Montespan (aside here: Louis has a habit of walking in on people sleeping or in a state of undress. Marchal is still ordering: Get his Majesty to safety, at once! His guards rush in to remove him, they scuffle and Louis yells: get your hands off me! Perfectly written line is delivered perfectly by perfect actor. Shes genuinely quite sweet, but tenacious something Im sure our Head of Security will appreciate). Excellent. Also it will set Louis in a collision with Phillipe who did not want his wife to go to England for the negotiations. Henriette answered Montagu with a shrug: she did not know. Point 5: Ah, Henriettes remark about Philippes glorious death in battle. Philippe was there in the woods and saved Louis from the wolves, but at the end of season one hes left Versailles. Season 1 | Season 2 Getting Started | Contributor Zone Contribute to This Page Add episode Its just that his anger and upset (and yes, jealousy I think) affects him so much, because its just another way for his brother to control and belittle him, make him less. To spare his feelings? This really shows he is vulnerable. It felt like if the whole world came running for us his voice thickens with emotion, we might fend off all who would take us ill. He finally looks up, at Louis. Im merely suggesting you might save some time. Marchal persists, pointing out that Louvois always disagrees frequently and loudly with the Kings decisions. My greatest issue with Henriette is that she seems to lack any personality. Rohan grabs her by the throat, saying it is not yet clear to him what she has done to earn her money, then demands she clean his room before leaving. You can read more about Henriettas death here. Once again, Louis behaviour, as reported here, is uncharacteristic. BRILLIANT acting. After all, everything she did was unacceptable at that time for women and it was certainly acceptable to beat a woman, especially if she was a wife, sister or daughter. The rape thing was upsetting. The cost is justified a hundred fold! ..And Philippes face that little sigh, the look he is incredulous. NOT I dont want you to die, (that comes later) she says my problems cannot be solved, you know that. Way to avoid his question. He genuinely believes Philppe is a potential threat. He was brought up and ruled as absolute monarch, and believed for the good of France. In the show Philippe tries time and again to offer his support and love, but is constantly betrayed or rejected (this happened with the historical figures, too. Duchess Henriette becomes suddenly ill when she returns from a visit to her brother in England. That Henriette was such an effective way of hurting Philippe is down to Philippes viewing her as his property, not because he felt any true affection for her (at least, not until closer towards the end, when I do believe he really does care). #JesusTakeTheWheel What a scene. When we are the kings enemy, we must make him believe we are his friend. Louvois has been a kind of double agent all along, directed by Louis himself to assume the role of critic and conspirator. Lot of time on my hands at the momentLULZ. Thank you! Fashion. for Season 2. Ridicule. then goes into the bedchamber. But I said lets make it our fort. For once in your life you played along. And even after Louis became tired of Louise, he didnt run back to Henriettes arms either, instead he turned to Montespan who became his next mistress. In the end though, nobody was actually tortured or executed on charges of killing her. She has no one to keep him at bay but the king, if he chooses. Louis XIV was born on 5 September 1638 in the Chteau de Saint-Germain-en-Laye, to Louis XIII and Anne of Austria. Versailles 2015 - S01E10 - Bring the Garden Here (High MP4) (WEBM) (Aired: 14 Dec. 2015) Duchess Henriette becomes suddenly ill when she returns from a visit to her brother in England. Romantic wouldnt work, but she could become a protge of his. I wonder what theyve got in store for us. Just another way Louis is emasculating him, making him a laughing stock in French society. He cripples himself with his own paranoia. When we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away. Lord. He is the villain if you are looking for one. And, more importantly, Henriette NEVER RAPED Philippe. Cassel passes him and bows. Keeps your brothers power in check and offers a direct connection to England. It is a controlled grief. Music. Ive said this before in comments. We are shown much more of Philippes inner mind and his relationship to Louis than anyone else. The Angelique series of movies from the 60s are highly camp, and put Philippe in a terrible light, but they are funny. But for that one unforgivable act, I could have felt real sympathy for that walking, talking mess of dysfunction. Versailles - Stagione 3 Episodio 10. Oh, and was it common in this era to talk about new marriages literally 2 minutes after your wife/husband died? You died of a cold, or a simple infection or someone sneezing on you. Back outside, to a view of Versailles under construction (I love these pre-glory shots!) Despite being a dab hand at treating people who have been poisoned, the doc announces that she . I just discovered Versailles this week and watched it in quick succession!!! I find it interesting that Louis feels the need to add: she came to find me, to put the doubt on Montespans face to rest. Anyhow, just wanted to say Moreover, two years later, Louis invited Lorraine back to court and into the royal favour, which he would not have done had he believed Lorraine was the murderer. And who can blame her? Louis. And the person either asserts himself or is subjugated to the will of others. Louis and Bontemps share a look between them a kind of wtf do we do now? Should Claudine be villified for showing up her father? Thank you. Nup. I must be poisoned! so Philippe ordered her dog to be fed the water. She also miscarries a baby that was either her husband Philippe's or the King's, no one is sure. The Dauphin hides stealthy behind a tree, looking for Rohan. Nor can I hold her responsible for the fact that Louis uses her as a weapon against his brother. Not only did they grow up together but they were first cousins and Louis was a devout Catholic. And poor Philippe, who is distraught about his wife, its just another snub for him, isnt it? I have heard many say they see angels before they die. (Ahhh! Philippe turns to the guards, stands patiently at the crossed pikes as Louis stares at his back. Colbert: You believe her highness is poisoned? Marchal replies cryptically: I believe. I pity Henrietta. Good idea, he says breathlessly. What shall I do! And stunned when Louis says shes in his bedchamber. I think Teresa is being a bit naive re. Thank you all! He was distraught when she died, and was fully intent on punishing those responsible (as poison was indeed thought to have killed her). And in the context of the show, I did find it a nice touch, the apology to him. Philippe has done as little to win her affection as she has to win his and Philippe certainly flaunts his lover in her face far more than she does hers in his. Husbands have being raping their wives since time began from royalty down to peasants and it was classed as taking their marital rights . Which one? Louis asks. Just because women were denied their personhood does not mean they were not human beings who felt as any human being might feel. So Louis sequesters the palace. And in 1671 during Louis three day visit to the Prince de Conds Chteau de Chantilly, the Master of Festivities and Pleasures Franois Vatel killed himself over the late delivery of fish, and Louis was quickly hustled away (as shown in the wonderful 2000 Gerard Depardieu movie, Vatel)), So we see Claudine striding to the bedchamber but her way is barred. Learn how your comment data is processed. And also shout out to Hannah for being a a much needed third voice. Such was the hygiene of 17th century France. She causes her father distress, embarasssment, hurt. But your first strike would have to be true. Or survival. he starts to pace: here comes the lecture. A yellow Spanish topaz, buried in the mud. IDK??? I realise that you are not a fan of the historical figure but I am speaking strictly of the character. Beating your wife was also quite legal, acceptable and, indeed, expected. He should be he has not given up either of their names for the part they played in his arrest. Louis approaches and she wakes. but afte I cliked submit my comment didnt appear. So Louis settles into sleep. And Louis weeps. Queen Marie-Thrse noted that everyone was talking about Henriettes death and the manner of it. Louis, who never forgave a slight, always ensured that the guilty paid dearly. Our dear Henriette. If Id been in her shoes, I think Id have given a flat affirmative. Le Roi Danse, which is all about the rise and fall of Lully, Louis XIVs court composer (French, but hard to find with English subtitles). But his family and France are divided. They exchange silent looks for a moment, then Philippe says quietly, Do you remember our fort?. Hi, I believe Louis did love her. Her cheeriness disguised the fact that she was unwell. Dear Anne, Im guessing I know a fair bit more about rape, the history of rape, the history of rape within marriage and womens rights (and lack thereof) than you realise. We begged you. See production, box office & company info. I guess in summary, I saw more nuance and non-verbal cues with Philippe that made him a more sympathetic character. I just binge-watched all 2 seasons and now painfully waits for each episode of Season 3 to come out. Philippe is no more vulnerable to the hurt and damage done to him than she is to the hurt and damage done to her, simply because he is a man with rights and she is a woman with no rights. I COMMAND YOU! and the guards step back. While it seems like shes being unfair to Philippe, he doesnt really put up an effort to make himself lovable most of the time. The one she loves the most. Arguably, as a man, it was within Philippes power to end his relationship easily enough whereas Henriette, a woman, would very possibly not have had that same power. Check back soon for my overview and wrap up of the entire season. Why is his passion for the man he loves to be forgiven and Henriettes passion for the man she loves to be used against her? Coming from the quills of noted showrunners David Wolstencroft and Simon Mirren, both known for gripping series with a conspiratorial bent (i.e. Its just that his anger and upset (and yes, jealousy I think) affects him so much, because its just another way for his brother to control and belittle him, make him less. Marchal picks up the dropped knife and lunges and he and Montcourt trade a few blows, with Marchal blocking then delivering a punch. Philippe looks up to Louis with wet puppy eyes, Louis looks at Philippe, his all flinty and hard. *Deeeeeep breath* Okay. What? Hi Jules and Aly, They have some banter, and Rohan invites the boy to play a game A game of war? The Dauphin says excitedly. Because the whole world gave you counsel. Dance. The historical notes you added were my favourite of all, I love knowing whats accurately portrayed and for the parts that were tweaked, what the actual history was. What a pain! She finally asks. Louis just nods, gives Philippe a look (who is standing near the doors, looking so alone and sad, I just wanna hug him!) ), Back to Louis outside his bed chamber, where Henriettes screams of pain can be heard. Yes. Versailles (TV Series 2015-2018) cast and crew credits, including actors, actresses, directors, writers and more. Obviously he loves Chevalier. Easily tired, she withdrew whenever the party stopped for the night, usually going straight to bed. They take her hands. It could possibly be the same spot from Ep1, when he confronted the wolf and Philippe rode in to rescue him. That doesnt mean a woman would feel affection for her abuser. Henriette is Philippes wife, his property, his to do with as he wishes. (We wont even go into whether or not that maid wanted to be drug into the bedroom by Philippe after his jealous strop with the Chevalier or his sneaking into Louises bed. Both felt neglected by the other. By this stage both Henriette and Marie Thrse of Spain now knew what it felt like to be jilted and cast aside in your loved ones affections by another attractive court lady. (Historical note: this happened and wasnt at all odd) The door suddenly opens, the Queenis standing there. It is clear these two have a long relationship and are not allowing a small (read: large) thing as marriage get in the way.
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