There is always a risk with Eros when he falls on a personal planet of point, and meeting Lilith is the greatest of them. 9. Things were so passionate that we were bankrupting ourselves on planet tickets, so after a whirlwind 4 month courtship I quit my job and moved in with him- on the other side of the country. Eros represents our passionate and erotic energy and how we use it. Moon/Pluto as a conjunction is not dark , per se. I'm so cappy Knowflake . Do we exile her from consciousness or build her a sanctuary for potent, creative expression? How we respond to this synastry contact has a lot to do with our own relationship to power and sexuality. Deja conj the DSC may make you look for wounded bird types. Also, our vertexes are separated only by 7 degrees. Hi Amiann Aww Fluffy You can gather the tone of the marriage based on the planets involved and the sign that theyre in. This relationship can be really passionate, fiery, and exciting. His nessus is in conjunction with his true node in geminis (in opposition to my uranus and my vesta). Can my Fortuna have some healing effect? Those interpretations CAN happen, but they are not destined to. If you want to ask about 2 aspects, I will try to answer but an answer on the whole relationship needs an entire chart reading. If someone does not want to accept the truth, that is their choice, but I, personally, will not do their chart. How does that play out? Hats off to your courage. Im pluto and he is the moon. Thanks! And what about Sun and Pluto contacts in synastry? YES. what do you think about a double-wammy moon sextile pluto and pluto square moon in sinastry? Sorry if its too much info xx, Ps, sorry! Conjunctions, oppositions, and trines are best. Eros & Psyche in. Lovely, Lo! Moon conjunct Pluto is the strongest of the Moon/Pluto aspects because the conjunction trumps any other aspect in strength. Always leaving them in a fog of confusion, along with lies, victim playing and guilt trips. If that does not float your boat, feel free not to read. However, if you have Nessus/Dejanira and Mars/Uranus, particularly in hard aspect( opposition and square), it may make for dark spice, shall we say. Double whammy of Mars-Uranus in our synastry chart. Things to look for in synastry: Here we focus on indications of sexual attraction using Astrology as our tool. The conjunction is, in my opinion, the only aspect that clearly dictates a marriage between these specific people. The story of Eros and Psyche is one of deep and transformative love, but their union was not devoid of hardship. We also had a Juno Vertex conjunction. You can say you did it and you can help the next person who comes along. And thank you for this article, I should have said that before. This ascendant descendant conjunction alone does a very interesting thing in the chart. Most important to me is that you find Jesus. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I am not mad, I am correcting you for instilling fear in people with your claim to truth. With asteroids, one must be an intrepid explorer because there is precious little PRACTICAL info out there. I suppose you have choice on whether to act on it. Would appreciate some insight!! They may not be able to see what you are up to and you could use this for your gain. Thanks for your help Amiann. His touch is all at once sexual, creative and spiritual. Synastry: Sun square Pluto, sun conjunct Amor, sun conjunct psyche, Pluto conjunct moon, Venus square Pluto, (they have Venus square Pluto)natal also, mars sextile Venus, Mars conjunct Sappho and trine Uranus (they have mars square Uranus natal mars) tine Jupiter, Venus conjunct Neptune and sun conjunct Venus and Eros square Pluto, Eros conjunct kaali, Venus conjunct kaali all opposite Nessus!! And my dejanira conjunct his Venus. Coming from a standpoint of being an archaeologist, we can interpret and theorize things ourselves all we want, but an archaeologist telling a crowd of people that their own interpretation of the past is the TRUTH would not only be incredibly wrong, but it would also be detrimental to people that no nothing about interpreting and analyzing archaeological sites, therefore they would take that persons word even though it is not truth. the reason this is the case is that Mars is sexual drive( all drives actually). Isis Conjunct the Vertex. Who does whom, so to speak? Wow. Thank you again. Sydney, you are amazing. Eros in Aries makes a person love the chase. I seemed to be destined to study and use Nessus and Deja. The chart never lies, my Friend. You are welcome to your opinion but I stand on what I wrote. Where did you get these theories from? You are not an astrology god that holds the key to the entire truth. This pairing can form a deep emotional bond, especially through physical intimacy. Eros-Psyche: Eros and Psyche are natural mates. so, quick question, where do I post it? crap. in the 12th house, you might be safe in assuming that there was a marriage or long-term relationship in a past life. It is like sky diving. In other words, if a mans Nessus conjuncts your ASC, he will abuse you, in my opinion. Moon conjunct Lilith EXACT Moon conjunct Destinn EXACT Venus square Mars EXACT Posts: 83From: 8th houseRegistered: Jan 2014, Posts: 50409From: Saturn next to CharmaineRegistered: Apr 2009, Copyright 2000-2015 I know how important moon moon aspects are to you, Venus pluto aspects Making people fear being in relationships over tiny aspects that do not have an incredibly high chance of playing out is not healing to others. Positive aspects speak to a generally happy marriage, but there is still karma to be worked out now. Moon oppose Pluto and Moon square Pluto could tend to be dark because they are powerful and not with a harmonious flow. I hear your concern. What does Nessus and Dejanira mean when conjuncting each other? Mars/Pluto is more primal in a pure sexual way than Moon/Pluto which is more emotional and much more emotionally bonded. However, it's recommended to do an individual birthchart analysis before analyzing the Synastry to see the personal needs and potential for maintaining a healthy relationship. I have this kinky fantasy specifically for him putting a really big needle into me as part of a medical procedure but this isnt my kink or fetish. 3 degrees is wide but this is one of the hardest aspects in the whole chart, so please be vigilant, as I know you will be! I write the truth not to placate people but because the truth is the only thing that heals. vertex conjunct moon and ascendant in scorpio can make it dark too? In this case Nessuus is retro in conjunction with the North node. There is attraction based on dark forces like rage, pain and abuse. Eros and Psyche were mythical lovers, and were brought together by fate. This can indicate marriage, but it can also indicate a long-term romantic or sexual relationship. If you want to end it, be upfront and be kind. All of astrology is neutral. I often see this aspect in the charts of couples who have been married for many years. Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a. Why dont you put up your chart in my Forum and ask your question again. The chart is complex and one has to look at the entire chart to draw very global conclusions. They made my day, Jeanie. What about a mars 8th house overlay also trining pluto? The Sun person naturally understands who the Moon person is and vice versa. Dejanira (female) conjunct Saturn (male) BUT my dejanira is conjunct with his sun by one degree and my dejanira is also in the same degree as my AC What does that mean? Would the aspects to the venus offset the negativity that the Dejanira implies? Why dont you come and put the chart up on my Forum? It creates a synastry energy where all the houses for the whole chart are conjunct to their opposite house in the partner's chart. If one does not see any abuse when this happens, my opinion would be that they dont know the person enough lol. And how did you arrive at the conclusion that Nessus and Dejanira are indicative of abuse? Eros is also prominent in their synastry. Eros in synastry Tell me, what is it like? Saturn conj Mars in Scorpio could produce a kinky kind of thing. The wonderful thing about this aspect, especially with the conjunction is that love is brought into the lives of both, even if . Hardly. Sun sextile/trine/conjunct Moon is often found in marriage synastry charts. It is really rocking my world right now <3. 3. I am looking to add 5 more aspects and would love your opinions! The Fortuna would, likely, bring good fortune to the vertex person, likely in the arena of money. Well, we have a Sun (me) trine Pluto and a Pluto (me) conjunct his sun, Thank you so much for the reply and sorry for the late reply, Ive just seen it xx My moon is in Sagittarius and his in cancer, so that always worries me , He has pluto at 27 Virgo with my sun at 11 Virgo. You do not have to do their chart. . Yes, it would. For example, I am the moon person and my mars also falls in his 8th and much of what you described for moon/pluto conjunction sounds like us. About YOU being the Nessus with your b/f. His makes two major squares to her inner planets. His dejanira is conjunct with my sun. and DW : womans Nessus (13 Gemini) opposite mans Juno ( 12 Sag). Would you liken moon/pluto dynamics to an 8th house moon overlay? I know it is not funny but the charts will play out, in my experience, anyway. For your daughter, watch out she does not get sexually abused. You can have Mars/Pluto with a fling and not feel a thing in your emotions.We have the same kind of weighting with the conjunction, trine, opposition and square as we did above. Thank you, Or can both apply? I am sorry! Mars pluto aspects I am for the stark, bare truth cuz that is what heals. Do you think I need to worry about the Nessus/BML conjunction or about abusing the poor wounded birds I keep looking for? I know this is not my website, so I cannot change how you write and it is not my business to dictate how you write. Ami, Christian Psychic Readings & Astrology Charts for All Faiths. That never ceases to amaze me, either! Not eros. Knowing more. I just want to let people know that things are not as clean cut and set in astrology as it is written sometimes because things that are presented as the only possible, likely truth will make people will fear astrology and the people around them if they look into isolated aspects from small asteroids and planets alike. 4) Conjunctions to the Axis/Angles = very strong bond. Is this a synastry, Ariel? Mars is the planet of passion, desire and sexual drive and Eros is the physical act of sex Re: Lilith conjunct . Eros Synastry Aspects: The asteroid, Eros, represents erotic love, sex, passion and intimacy. Ascendant opposite ascendant (1st house on the 7th house overlay). Can you relate to it or are just worried in general lol. Powerful, you say? It wasn't until he began to withhold sex from me that I finally crumbled. Does that fit and I applaud your willingness to face yourself. When these relationships end, it is not pretty. It is typical cat and mouse game with taboo twists. In the conjunction, the planets are next to each other( or on top of each other in the exact conjunction). There is so few information on these aspects so I really appreciate reading more about it here and in the forum. Thank you Ariel! For that reason, I am not for everyone and know this but I seem to be appreciated by people who think like I do. What do you think? Thank you Ivs. When someone's planet touches our natal Eros in synastry, it is as if we have been stuck by Cupid's arrow. It doesnt always make for the easiest of relationships, because both people come into the marriage with the weights of the past life issues, but it definitely has staying power. 8. At the end of the day, that is all this god and goddess really ask for.". There are many, many possibilities in astrology, even infinite if Im speaking on the complexity of each persons chart. This was likely a more romantic or sexual relationship instead of something that sustained itself day to day. Not good, my Friend. Ceres person appreciates this, as they typically focus more on caregiving than on their own inner desires. I had a very intense, psychically damaging and life changing relationship with a man whose Eros was directly conjunct my Lilith, and also more loosely conjunct my Neptune & Descendant. Would you say that a double whammy Nessus OPPOSITE Juno is something dangerous too ? The Lilith person brings sexual energy that is literally untamed. Did you know I had one? I know my life, and what manifests in it. This is a difficult aspect, but the couple often meets in this life to try and heal the wound. It does indicate that both partners knew each other in a past life, but other romantic aspects are needed in the chart to create an energy strong enough for a marriage. A Sun conjunct Lilith transit highlights the power traits like charisma, magnetism, emotional force and leadership qualities of the Sun. I have moon conjunct neptune and venus in 12th house. I should have replied to the previous post, as it was a continuation of the conversation we had started. Most Astrologers dont tell things straight like I do. His Dejanira is in 25 Scorpio, conjunct my Part of Fortune in 27 Scorpio, opposite my Moon in 29 Taurus and Mars and Jupiter, in 0 Gemini. I know this is an article for synastry, but Im a little worried about my natal chart after reading about Nessus and Dejanira. But interested to see how things unfold. When you say one which you contemplate, do you mean that the person is aware of the abuse tendency and tries to deal with it? I meant in synastry her saturn conjuct his deja 1 degree, Thats ok. Aww She may ride his case for being a victim like say, get over it etc etc, Pingback: Dark sexual relationship synastry top 5 | Signing. Lol just noticed what you wrote at the end about Mars/Uranus, sorry! Astrology 101 Astrophilosophy 1.8K subscribers Subscribe 119 3K views 1 year ago Eros and Venus in. He may abuse her and it would be seen publicly. Her theme is power-alluring and irresistible. His 8th house Nessus is conjunct my 7th house Dejanira (2s), opposite my moon (-1s) and square my mercury (2a). They have a very strong sense of "us against the world," and they will fight to protect the boundaries of their relationship at all costs. In some past life, at some point, weve been married to almost everyone weve dated or had some type of relationship with. It is not good to have a base level view on what will happen with one isolated aspect. Ive never seen the Descendant explained so clearly or succinctly before. I just found out my abusers Moon is 1 degree conjunct my Dejanira. (double-whammy..) It is desire, it is passion and love. Moon conjunct pluto Im composite and moon in 12th house composite (our feelings were a secret for a long time as we didnt know how we felt and were not able to be together for a long time). Synastry When a person's natal moon forms a conjunction with someone's Eros, or vice versa, this can be a very sexualbut very intenserelationship. We also have mars opposite pluto (Im pluto) in synastry. It may seem challenging but we share many conjunctions and trines/sextiles. I'm not typically the "make him suffer" type, but holy wow did it all come rushing out with him. That is why it is so powerful. I appreciate your thoughts on these aspects but I am concerned when any astrologer singles out specific aspects and makes sweeping judgements about charts and how the energies in that chart will be made manifest. You may be fated to marry. I wonder if that would mean that he IS an abuser but couldnt abuse me ?? Thats not the truth. The year started with powerful and forward thinking energy that will assist in elevating us both spiritually and subconsciously. The exception would be the person who overcame it through God. his moon is in cancer so depending on what time hes born, there are 2 scenarios :1) my Saturn squares his moon but my sun and north node would conjunct it 2) my Pluto would square his moon but our moons would be in trine. You both feel admiration for each other. Lets see. You say that you want a nuclear passionate relationship. Fortuna Conjunct the Vertex. Who would bring who abuse? It can ruin possible healthy relationships. Still, even without the conjunction, I have Nessus in the 1st house, which would make me abusive, according to these theories, and I dont fit. We have our arguments and I sometimes feel put down by him (and, to be fair, he feels the same way about me) and sometimes my self-esteem suffers. Lots of good aspects so thats why the Nessus Dejanira confuses me. As you know, or can find from my directory, Eros and Psyche are my favorite asteroids. Ami, no one can describe astrology better than you. Not all people with a prominent Dejanira are victims I disagree.I think they will be until they can truly overcome it with God. Not sure which one id prefer. Do you think the way it plays out ties into whatever our attitudes toward Eros/Lilith themes (erotic transformation, primal urges, etc) were to begin with? Does this mean anything? What does that mean? Thanks you, Jos. I have moon opposition pluto. Do you have any advice for me? As one of the four largest asteroids (along with Vesta, Pallas, and Juno), Ceres is usually analyzed in the birth chart. Since both Eros and Lilith are isolated energies buried deep in the unconcious, the erotic transformation which takes place upon their meeting is deep with raw and intuitive spiritual potency. Please, keep me posted though but, yes, please, be careful, Love! In our synastry chart we have moon trine pluto and mars square pluto. Also, our vertexes are conjunct in the same degree. That is my commitment to my readers. If you see any intense conjunctions between the Sun, the Moon, Juno, the South Node, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Lilith, etc. I do find it funny that I have Dejenira in 5 deg Sag, since most of my arch enemies were Sags. Posts: 376From: Western Massachusetts, USRegistered: May 2009. That is why I dont mince words. Eros Conjunct the Midheaven: This synastry aspect will be quite powerful for both parties since it will impact the way that the world views them. Amazingly accurate. Yes, that is a good way to put it. Thank you for your comment. Dejanira trines my Ascendant. Obviously the hard ones, like by a square or an opposition, adding to the (possibly) destructive passion! Also my true node is at 22 Cancer close to my nessus (conjunction?) I reply to the comments out of order because I do it on the central comment form. woman s Dejanira and Juno, ( 445 and 432 Scorp ) both conjunct mans Eros and Chiron, (510 Scorp, 530 Scorp ) and both OPPOSITE mans Nessus (6 Taurus) I read all these comments and yes they are interesting. That`s very interesting information. For more context, Nessus/BML dont aspect anything else except a grand trine with Mercury/MC and Jupiter. Relationships that provoke her and Eros, although excruciatingly potent at times, serve as a meeting place for both divine figures.