His reputation as a Texas Ranger would have made him a legend even if he had not apprehended Clyde Barrow and Bonnie Parker in Louisiana. Full Details. Haha But if its your bag and you can hit what youre aiming for with it, then go for it. Always carried 1911 in .45 cal but when I tried the .38 super it was an instant change of heart! I agree that the round can stand its own with the 9 and .45. Clyde Barrows gang shot and wounded two prison guards one fatally- during a prison breakout in 1934. To Chris. Rudy Flores. defense as they sell hollow points as well. I fitted a .38 Super barrel and stronger spring. My carry ammo is loaded considerably hotter (think 923 Winchester level). Parker was just 24 when she and Barrow died in a hail of gunfire after being ambushed by law enforcement authorities in Louisiana. As long as I do my bit, its a straight shooter. It would eat the center out of targets with factory loads to 15 yards if one did his part. Posts: 24,416. I have been shooting 38 super for over 15 years. Thats my take, now take your best shot to change my mind.. I have a letter from Colt showing the shipment. I would have expected he would have carried a 4 inch Triplelock. In those days, Republicans had no possibility of winning a Senatorial race and the ruling ensured that Johnson was elected to the U.S. Senate from Texas. A few ago I traded for a RIA 22TCM/9mm combo. Started reloading rounds as store bought ones were not to my liking. Walker wanted a handgun that was extremely powerful at close range. He eventually took a job in a bank and started the study of law the old fashioned way- reading law books in a nearby law office. This Colt was shipped to a hardware store in El Paso, Texas in January 1932 for a Texas Ranger named Ralph Rohatch. [which also headspaces on the case mouth like the 38 soup, and probably will have the same issues for me, but I long for a new reloading challenge]. Colt Officers Model "King Super Target" .38 Spl PRICE DROP. This Texas Ranger collector firearm features handsome 24-karat gold decorations, including the hammer, slide stop, safety lock, grip screws, barrel bushing and magazine catch. According to one of the posters, the reason that the Texas Rangers liked the Super 38 was that it would penetrate car bodies better than other calibers. The pistol pictured was presented to Highway patrolman Glenn Elliott in 1956. Im not exactly a 9mm or .45 fan either. Likewise when ordering 124gr 9mm bullets to reload for target shooting I noticed the 9mm labeling also said they were not the typical .355 but .356 that I had previously been buying seperatelyfor the 38 super, now I just buy the one size 356 124gr for both. Shot the 9mm and after cleaning put in the 38 super and havent changed it back. The .38 Super varies in accuracy. at the time. Sold my Glock 17 (after 15 years of daily service as my carry gun) and bought a new Tangfoglio Combat 38 Super. Every man in the West wanted one. . A .38 Super fired in a .38 ACP could prove disastrous. The guy swung the axe and Hamer blasted him. Belgian made six shot revolver. It was shipped to McBride's Guns, Inc. in Austin, Texas, on March 24, 1984. For general use, I most often practice with a FMJ loading. All comments are held for moderation and will appear after approval. Crime was rampant in the Roaring '20s and peace officers found themselves at a disadvantage when armed with revolvers firing the standard round-nosed .38 Special. Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pinterest (Opens in new window). Advantage is you only have to find an FFL in your area to handle the transfer (also easy to do with Google), and once everything is said and done, youve escaped all the sales tax (unless you get it from someone in your state) and the higher price that a retailer is likely going to charge from the get-go, so you end up saving some money and can shop around without leaving your keyboard! The testimony that the lawyers gathered- as a result of the names of voters that later testified they had never voted- and jotted down while in the bank- demonstrated, beyond any doubt, according to Robert Caro (the definitive Johnson biographer)- that Lyndon Johnson had personally conducted one of the most massive election frauds in U.S. electoral history. Nevertheless, the brief opportunity to look at the election documents inside the bank was made possible by Hamers 200 yard walk down the center of Alice, Texas with his coat off. Required fields are marked *. The answer would be yes. Have shot it in bullseye competition and USPSA. In mid-March Henry Methvins family contacted law enforcement in Louisiana. Out of stock. The .38 Super is more powerful than the 9mm Luger and only a little, if any, more difficult to handle. I chose an inexpensive Swenson barrel from Brownells for this project. John B. Jones, 1860 Colt Army Richards Transition Revolver, 1878 Smith & Wesson New Model No. One can assume this must have been at a bit of a distance or Hamer hit him in the legs as apparently the guy lived. Bill was glad to do it. There in the case was a Kimber Pro Carry II in stainless, she was a beauty to say the least. Colt 1911 Heritage .38 Super Full-Size Stainless Pistol with Custom Scroll Engraving. At the time, you had to know not to fire a .38 Super in older Colt 1903 pistols. Both use the same Wilson A tribute to the revered Commercial Government Model pistols of the past, the 1911 Classic features the Series 70 firing system and rollmarks, national match barrel, staked on front sights, and spurred hammer. However, for the hunt on Bonnie & Clyde, he replaced the S&W revolver with a .38 Colt Super Auto pistol (pp. In addition, it includes a custom serial number and a commemorative coin with a pouch. Colt 38 Super; Colt 380; Colt 45; Colt AR 15; Colt AR-15; Colt Cobra; Colt Cobra .38 Spl +P; Colt Combat Unit CCO; Couple tips / strong suggestions: First, a frame handling eight-round Wilson magazines, for a nine-shot capacity, and one on which you can always get all your fingers. Previously sold. Got my Star in 1970 and the Colt in the early 1980s. Required fields are marked *. Like many lawmen of his era, Hamer adorned Old Lucky with carved pearl stocks,. It was given to the museum by Mrs. Clyde Decker in honor of Sheriff Bill Decker and offers an early example of the standard Commander. That is, you cant have a gun which is chambered for any cartridge which has been used by any military anywhere at any time (Im sure theres an exception for 12 gauge shotguns and rimfires). Hamer retained a Special Ranger commission after retirement and he put it to good use. Good choices! Estimate $150 - $300. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. Still. All fitted with the best barrels money can buy manufacture by Fred Kart. Fact is, its like the .357 magnum or at least the .357 SIG in 1911s. I built a 1911 Govt in 9mm and I just love it but wanted a little more power. Tangfolio Match Elite chambered in 9mm. Regular Price Oak Hill Price Cash Price. Bonnie Parker was just 24 in 1934 when she and Clyde Barrow died in a hail of gunfire after being ambushed by authorities in Louisiana. I now have a 18 shot, 3 caliber 1911. Hard to find ammo in a platform I dont particularly care for and no, I cant stand Glock either. TriStar 85680 SPS Vista LNG 1911 Black/CHR 18rd. I have several 1911s and handguns whose calibers run the gamut from .22 through .45 ACP But my .38 Super is by far my smoothest, easiest and most comfortable handgun I own, hands down. This is where I am supposed to say, and the result was the Wilson Combat Texas Ranger Model. Well, not exactly, as I found out when I requested one. . Caliber: .38 Colt Special Overall condition as seen in photos. It is a great calibre that is moribund because too many shooters jump on the bandwagon of whatever is popular at the time. As an Old School (Since early 90s) competitive shooter / reloader, and ER/ICU MD, Ive been a fan of ol .38 Super. I own 2 Colt 1911 ( gov model and custom shop) and they are amazing! Thus, Johnson was off the ballot in the general election unless Johnson could do something quickly. 100 Texas Ranger Trail Waco, TX 76706 (254) 750-8631 [email protected] 9:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m. Last guest admitted at 4:30 p.m. Interstate 35 at Southbound (from Dallas) Exit 335C or Northbound (from Austin) Exit 334B in His entrance into politics commenced when local leaders asked Hamer to catch a crew of rustlers that included the son of a prominent ranching family. I have a Colt 1911 in 38 special.. (not a super) that was made for the U.S. ARMY NATIONAL MATCH TEAM in the 1960s. I am a reloader and shoot it all the time. When he got to the next group, his fingers curled for the draw and poised just above the grip of his pistol. My father removed this gun from the inside thigh of Bonnie Parker where she had it taped with white, medical, adhesive tape. Guns International #: 101277151 Seller's Inventory #: 219948. trouble getting ammo from LAX Ammo for target and I pretty much fell in love with the Colt 1911 38 Super I have. Those are Supers, and they were the better choice for a while. All rights reserved. These grips dont just look good, they provide exceptional control. I have three .38 Supers and enjoy them very much. We are pleased we were able to work in partnership with RR Auction to make the gun legally compliant.. Mutual Fund and ETF data provided by Refinitiv Lipper. Hughes trial was scheduled for trial within a week and a mob gathered outside the jail every night. It fired a .429-inch, 200 grain lead, round-nose bullet at around 870 feet per second and 336 ft-lbs energy which equaled the .44 Russian's traditional 246 grain load. Got out and bought a new Glock as they were the new kids on the block. And it was so heavy that Colt said it would take a "Texan to shoot it.". For the max in performance, Buffalo Bore offers high-velocity loads, including a 1,400 fps 115-grain JHP. The Gun Control Act of 1968 requires firearm manufacturers to place serial numbers on firearms and made firearms with removed, obliterated or altered serial numbers illegal to possess. $901.00 $901.00. Originally (and this was a biggie), it headspaced on the cases semi rim, which affected its accuracy compared to the 9mm and the 45ACP. GA Sales: 62. Clean burning The 38 Super will never die, though, partially because it is the most popular caliber in Mexico. Stevenson wanted to examine the tally sheets in the ballot box for Precinct 13; i.e.,fraudulent poll and tally lists for his opponent, then Congressman Lyndon Johnson. According to Rick Cartledge in THE GUNS OF FRANK HAMER: Frank Hamer Jr., a distinguished lawman in his own right, gave a filmed interview in which he showed the nimble .35 that his father had bought especially to go after Bonnie and Clyde. The 38 Super fills the bill here. The roads were poor and Stevens crossed several rivers with steep banks and few bridges. Hamer and Stevenson were both tall with big shoulders and carried themselves in a way that stated they meant business. Hamer spent 27 years with the Rangers. Born in Rowena, Texas, Parker met Barrow at the home of a mutual friend in January 1930, according to the most credible accounts. Over many lonely, weary years, he earned the absolute confidence of his neighbors hauling their goods to market. The FBI Special Agents, the Border patrol, many Texas Rangers, St. Louis P.D.,and many leos, particularly in the South West of the U.S., favored the round due to it's superior penetration over the .45acp. I more than once said that If my son was to need to carry a gun for his work I would want him to carry a 38 Super. I know lots of times my Super rides to the range right beside my G20. The Rock Island is a fun gun to fire and use. My carry ammo has .357 Magnum power and 17 rounds in the magazine what is not to like? It can be loaded just like a 9mm with the same bullets and powder. After the Texas Rangers returned here safely, she (with the help of her father) gave each of the Ranger's involved an engraved Colt Commander. COLT 1911 45 ACP STAINLESS . Barrow, Parker and associate Jimmy Mullens engineered the Eastham prison farm escape and freed Raymond Hamilton, Henry Methvin, Hilton Bybee and Joe Palme. Hamer used a customized .35 Remington Model 8 semiautomatic rifle with a special-order 15-round magazine. Burley Auction Group - TEXAS RANGER COLLECTION/ESTATE AUCTION - TEXAS RANGER COLLECTION/ESTATE AUCTION - New Braunfels, . I own five theyre just plain fun to shoot. COLT PYTHON .357 MAG 6" 6RD STS . This gun is in excellent condition and is covered by Dury's Lifetime Warranty. I bought a gun to fit my mistake,and dont regret it ,shoots dead accurate and hardly any recoil. Add to Wish List. After that the reputation of the weapon (and my dad) seemed to quiet things down nicely. I always loved that pistol. Veteran Deputy Bob Alcorn had chugged away with his hefty Browning Automatic Rifle and ripped some respectable holes all the way through the car. I bought a RIA 1911 in .38 super because everybody has a 1911 in .45. Colt 1911 Texas Ranger commemorative chambered in .38 Super with a 4 1/4 inch barrel bright bore and good grooves with a display case and Texas Ranger Medallion. Where in AZ do you live? Item Number: O1911C-SS38-DHM. Glad both calibers are being produced again in greater numbers. NO COLLECTION TOO BIG OR SMALL , This is a great history of a very great man fighting bad men including LBJ and the criminal democratic party, Your email address will not be published. No FTF, as long as no lead exposed @ tip. However, the .38 Super suffered in popularity after the introduction of the .357 Magnum. The .38 Super was introduced in the 1911 handgun in 1929 to arm peace officers with a hard-hitting handgun that offered good penetration against the new breed of mechanized thug. He had a bar in West Covina Cali. The .38 Super was introduced in the 1911 handgun in 1929 to arm peace officers with a hard-hitting handgun that offered good penetration against the new breed of mechanized thug. A 6 1/2 inch gun would have been difficult to use. I just dont see the appeal. The Ranger Connection Thanks for your article, it helped shed some light on the history, i might try to pick up another 1911 in that caliber. All rights reserved. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Seattle Area Schools Should Prepare for Beslan-style Terror Attacks, Frank Hamer and His Guns; The Moment He Almost Kept LBJ From Stealing an Election hi. Guy I worked for said to try this, a Colt Combat Commander in .38 Super. Read the article about the Amy McNeil Kidnapping. They cost me $35.00 a box, so $105.00 is nothing to sneeze at. It's unknown when he first acquired the gun, but it is described as a C-engraved, 4 3/4-inch-barreled, blued revolver. Its too bad, that it didnt take off the way Colt intended, because it is a good round that most likely would have had a stellar LEO career. Get all the stories you need-to-know from the most powerful name in news delivered first thing every morning to your inbox. 2023 FOX News Network, LLC. The .38 Super is dimensionally identical to the .38 ACP of 1900. GA Sales: 3370. Im in Chandler. . And Its got plenty of rounds. The only thing that bugs me about .38 Super and 7.62 Tokarevis nobody chambers a modern weapon in them! The Defender is an officer-sized aluminum framed gun with a 3 inch bull barrel. His lawyers argued about strategy for hours and Johnson finally turned to Abe Fortas who happened to be in nearby Dallas on business. Texas Meet Arkansas RR Auction in New Hampshire received the gun this summer from a private collector and noticed that the revolver had been altered, according to ATF officials from its field office in Manchester, N.H. Git!, he admonished and then, Fall back!. I love my 38 supers! The gun, which has a 1926 patent date, remains in fine mechanical condition, with all original factory markings, and has moderate wear on its grips. We clamped 3 Oklahoma City phone books together and took them down to the end of the range. The crowd threw stones at the courthouse, forced the doors to the courtroom corridor and rushed toward the courtroom. Sometimes, Timing is everything. Winchester makes a 124gr nickel coated brass case jacketed soft point ammo. This is easily my favorite caliber to shoot and i have guns in .357 magnum, 9mm 45acp 50ae 44 magnum 10mm 380acp 38special. Mexican law forbids the sale or possession of any firearm chambered in a military caliber. The .45 SAA Colt was a mainstay until John Browning completed his 1911 project. Serial Colt Model 1889 U.S. Navy Revolver. If you want to know more about Glenn Elliiott, he has written two books: A Ranger's Ranger and Still A Ranger's Ranger. . Secondly, a slide short enough to help with concealment, yet long enough to reduce the whippiness found on many truly short-barreled pistols, and still providing a good sight radius. My super 38 Colt is an outstanding pistol. Factory ammo as you are likely aware is pretty expensive. Lock up okay, but gun is likely non functional. per page . Was an excellent firearm but I let it wiggle its way out of my collection and into one of my buddys who had become obsessed about acquiring it till he offered a deal that I couldnt pass up. The lynching of a black prisoner in Sherman started when George Hughes, a farm hand, admitted to raping a white woman. Sort By: 19 Item(s) Show. On the morning of May 23, 1934, when my father and the officers with him in Louisiana killed Clyde Barrow and Bonnie Parker, a notarized letter written by Hamer on the gun reads. The Republic of Texas served as its proving ground and was nearly the only market for Colt's revolutionary product. Barrel is 5-1/8 inches. Stevenson and Hamer met the lawyers at the Alice Hotel and Hamer told them to take off their coats so that the well-armed gangs employed by the Duke of Duvall,George Parr, would know that they were unarmed. A larger group stood in the doorway of the bank where Johnsons cronies illegally kept the election records. Add to this, all his SAA pistols were short barreled. I fit a Super 38 barrel to it and a 1lb. See FRANK HAMER, TEXAS RANGER by Hans-Christian Vortisch. with an extra barrel in 9mm. Below this was a lightweight aluminum-alloy frame, with a flat-black Armor Tuff finish, making the package lighter on the belt and giving a striking appearance. This is a well-known gun in Texas as it was displayed in several major museums (including the LBJ Library in Austin) for a two-year exhibition in the early 1980s, a listing at RR Auction reads. In those days, the lawmen were revolver men. There are a lot of opinions on the .38 Super. Not much more if any discernable recoil and I have had several shoulder surgeries and doesnt bother me. In the 80s people began to realize that head spacing off the Rim (like revolver cartridges) was why so many .38 Supers were not accurate, and started spacing off the case mouth, like the .45 ACP. We reserve the right to edit as appropriate, delete profane, harassing, abusive and spam comments or posts, and block repeat offenders. I rank the .38 Super along with the .45 ACP and the .44 Special as the 3 best calibers in America. The Texas Rangers may also have been the first law enforcement . His trial practice in Texas made him one of the greatest trial lawyers ever to try a case in a state known for famous trial lawyers. first time i fired it i couldnt believe how flat shooting it is. Its previous owner was a Texas county sheriff. Local Storage seems to be disabled in your browser. Hamer also owned many other guns. 10/22 Ruger; 1903 Springfield; 1911 Colt 45; 308 Rifle; 32 Caliber; . Midwestern banks were easy picking for a gang that outgunned the cops with fully automatic 30.06 Browning Automatic Rifles and fast cars. Colt built military versions of the pistol, along with a civilian model and various target models. My first handgun was a Colt Government Model in .38 Super (built in 1947) which Ive had since the mid-70s. I haven't had any issues whatsoever and have a good 3k rounds of this stuff thru my 2 guns. Burley Auction Group * Caspian Arms. I hunted for years to find a 1911 in .38 Super I could afford. The cost of the 1911 chambered for it was a deterrant too. (Normal boolits are .355 .356. Okay, here are the generals I think people will say about the Super: its an accurate, well developed round with an extensive commercial and handload database. The factory letter confirms this is one of only 94 Texas Ranger Special Edition revolvers manufactured, lists the configuration, and notes that is chemically etched with "TEXAS RANGERS" in block letters down the back strap and inlaid with a flush silver "10" on the heel. HT110, OW86, W:D71) called Old Lucky, either in a holster on his right side, or, when he was no longer required to ride a horse, simply tucked into his waistband. This is simply because the original before the +P designation was a development of the .38 ACP. He knew that if any members of the Barrow gang survived the fusillade, a .38 Super round would penetrate the vehicles heavy steel body and body armor, too, if necessary! Is it good for self-defense? These loads offer excellent feed reliability. In 1948, Hamer accompanied Gov. A black Ultralight trigger and an Ultralight burr hammer are part of the system that provides a crisp 3-1/2- to 3-3/4-pound trigger pull. It features straight-to-the-rear trigger compression, a low bore axis, a grip that fits most hands well, and excellent speed into action. Frank Hamer, had its serial numbers obliterated in the heyday of Bonnie and Clyde's reign of terror, prompting Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) officials to issue a new number to make the handgun legal. 13 Kathleen J. Hoyt, historian, to Colt Company, July 26, 1993. Its true, the cartels love it because it is a non-military caliber and subsequently not banned in Mexico. Several variations of the Colt .38 Super guns were introduced. The first practical revolving-cylinder handgun was invented in 1831 by Samuel Colt of Hartford, Connecticut, and patented on February 25, 1836, the year of the Texas Revolution. cartridge. I find very few people casually shoot the Super. It only made sense to chamber the 1911 Government Model in a .38 caliber cartridge. It filled the gap between the .45 Colt and the .38 Special. You can also crank it up quite hot. Cheaper Than Dirt and Academy Sports both offer good supplies, and the Internet lists a number of suppliers, both foreign and domestic. Thus the six shooter was born. I have heard all the bull about the 9mm. The Colt .38-caliber Detective's Special revolver, which was recovered from Parker's body by Texas Ranger Capt. As a result, the American Tactical recently announced the company will offer two new bolt-action rifle systems from Black Creek Labs. Great 3 cartridge pistol for defense or hunting. I would recommend it for any novice shooter or women; especially the unfortunately short-lived downsized frame which made it an excellent choice for concealed carry or purses. That afternoon, the lynch mob threw gasoline into the courthouse; the rangers attempted to rescue the prisoner while the mob prevented firemen from putting out the fire and cut their hoses. There can be no other gun with a closer association to Bonnie Parker than the one taped to her body at her death.. 150 grain cast Elco design, AA7 and starline plus p brass makes for a ten . If you have a question about an item, please call or e-mail for more information before placing your order. and quality ammo. Hinton requested a BAR because he knew that the lawmen would be up against more than one BAR that Barrow had stolen from a National Guard armory and with which Barrow had already gunned down several peace officers. 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